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 Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Science and religion |
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As a scientist studying the ways that God has screwed the universe together I cannot help but be impressed with the beauty and symmetry of the equations and theories defining the fundamental fabric of the world.
The quantum theory introduces an element of uncertainty and lack of determinism which allows free will to enter the world. This same indeterminacy also allows evil and the two are in a sense complementary.
The various religions perceive facets of this interplay between freewill, good and evil but few professing religious beliefs ever try to understand the way that the world works at the microscopic level.
As science probes more deeply into the workings of the brain, the prospects for understanding mind are improving. Will science eventually explain our deep rooted religious impulses in terms of neural currents and fields? Will religion and science eventually converge to a consistent world view?
I think that the answer is 'yes' but would be interested in views from 'the other side of the fence'
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I believe that science and religion are fundamentaly asking the same questions, just looking at it through a different window. And what they see through those windows can seem to be contradictory when, as you seem to be pointing out, it is nothing of the sort. Many people seem to think that, on both sides of the fence, that because the Universe has laws, there is no need for God. I read an interesting analogy regarding slightly a reason why God doesn't "interfere", which I will try to reproduce here, though it will be somewhat distorted and not as good!
If someone starts a poker game, for it to be able to have any meaning and for it to be able to work, he has to frist create rules by which the game has to be played. And, once the game has started, he cannot just stop halfway through and change all the rules because this would nulify the game completely. He also cannot cheat, as this would make the whole thing pointless. Once it starts, all he can do is play by the rules and see what happens. The only real difference is, is that God would know the outcome of these laws before even playing the game. But it still would not change the fact that he cannot just violate universal laws to interefere with what is going on.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: free will |
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Hi Cparker
If God knows the outcome, then do we truly have free will, as the future is already determined?
I think that the universe was started according to certain laws. These (quantum mechanical) laws involve an inherent indeterminism such that only the probabilities of specific outcomes are predictable. This allows the free will which releases us from the Laplacian determinism of the classical world. I think it is more likely that the Creator will be bound by the rules that he has instigated...it would also be much more fun for him!
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lol, well... I'm not saying that we wouldn't have any choices to make. I believe that maybe every moment of time exists all the time, that would mean that we have already made all our decisions. So God would know them all simply because he exists outside of time and so could "see" it all at once, objectively. Yet the fact that we can't see our future choices preserves our free will. The only trouble would come if time travel turned out to be possible. But then time travel could even have it uses in terms of this, if you've ever watched the movie Donnie Darko then you may understand what I'm getting at.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: time |
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That's a novel theory of time! Afraid it doesn't comply with current scientific views of the subject though. A scientific theory can usually be tested by using it to make predictions and then doing experiments to test these predictions. This has proved to be an incredibly powerful technique for establishing truth and reliable knowledge of the world. It gives a consistent world view which never lets you down!
Time travel is indeed possible in principle and Paul Davies has written a book describing how to build a machine for the purpose. Might not be easy though. 
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But doesn't Einstein's theory of space/time suggest that time doesnt flow but exists as just one block? Einstein himself said in quite a famous quote:
"Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."
I found a passage on a website that is kind of on topic with this that I will copy here and then will post the link to the whole thing at the end:
"Yet in the best theory of space and time that we have, formulated by Albert Einstein, time does not flow in this way. It doesn't flow at all.
In Einstein's theory, space and time "are bound together," into a block of space-time, Dowker says.
She spends her days exploring an alternative way of describing the universe, one with the potential of restoring a flow of time.
Some day, if her approach is right, the physics theory of time could more closely match our perceptions.
Einstein showed much of what we sense about time is an illusion.
We wake up in the morning, drive to work. In the afternoon, we drive home. All the while, the clock ticks in a seemingly independent way.
But, in fact, time is not independent of space.
In Einstein's theory, space-time is so bound together, the faster we move through space, the slower time passes.
So, if a young woman travels to a distant galaxy at the speed of light, for her, only months might pass. She returns, still a young woman.
But to her Earth-bound twin brother, her journey took perhaps 50 years. He is old and grey.
Experiments have proven this aspect of Einstein's theory.
If two atomic clocks are set to the same moment and one is put on a jet that travels around the Earth at ultra-fast speeds, the clock that takes the journey returns a fraction of a moment behind the one that didn't.
But if space-time exists as one smooth block, it implies the entire history of the universe -- past, present and future -- already exists, as a unit.
"We simply cannot impose a notion of the passage of time in Einstein's theory," Dowker says.
We play out our existence on already-existing "world lines" within this block.
"My world line is already finished. It already exists." "
http://www.therecord.com/explorers/explorers_special_0405046480.html
If this kind of approach turns out to be true, then every moment of time, every "now" we experience, would each exist eternally. Or until the universe is destroyed. It would suggest that we experience time at "right angles" to objective time. For some reason this view of time makes more sense to me, but that doesn't make it true. Something only has real and true value to us as individuals when we can experience it for ourselves and until such a time it remains only a theory.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Time |
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Yes,but the space-time of relativity theory belongs to classical physics and is a kinematic concept. Relativistic concepts only become relevant at speeds approaching the speed of light. For most of us on earth, Newton's laws of motion are adequate to describe classical motion.
These equations are time-reversal invariant so that if time runs backward you get a valid solution. As Laplace remarked, If the positions and velocities of all particles in the universe are specified exactly then the future and past are completely determined,and can be computed given a powerful enough computer.
Everyday experience, however, indicates an 'arrow' for time which requires statistical considerations for explanation. Time for us flows inexorably toward the future. If you place an ink drop in a tank of water, the ink spreads throughout the tank. Running time backward would allow the ink to condense back into a drop but this is never observed.The reason is that the time required for this to occur 'The Poincaré recurrence time' is longer than the age of the universe so that the symmetry between past and future is broken.
The real world is Quantum Mechanical in nature and the problems of combining Einstein's General Relativity theory with quantum theory are enormous. String theory possibly offers the best hope. For most everyday low energy events in the Lab, quantum theory without general relativity is more than adequate and again the statistical quantum mechanics defines the arrow of time through the theory of irreversible processes.
Can't really elaborate further without getting very technical!
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You guys have been a blast to 'listen' to. Just remember to take the time and just enjoy the creation around you...without trying to figure out everybit of its existance or reason. (but keep on researching everything)
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You guys have been a blast to 'listen' to. Just remember to take the time and just enjoy the creation around you...without trying to figure out everybit of its existance or reason. (but keep on researching everything)
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I so admire the artistic temperament Smitty! 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: Faith viewed from an alturnative perspective |
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Faith as I understand it means that all generations of sons/daughters of the covenant can search the "holy spirit" to conquor the "promised land" and cause the covenant people to inheritent an eternal inheritance of these oath sworn lands. Cutting a covenant requires creating a soul from nothing. The Torah begins with the Creation story not because it teaches that G-d created the world in 6 days and rested upon the seventh - the Torah speaks in the language of man, and this simplistic story teaches a revelation that as G-d created the Universe from nothing, so too man can create his/her soul from nothing. A soul in hebrew is called world or Universe. Interpreting the Creation story requires getting past the forms so as to grasp the substance. The Torah, its about a revelation of the creation of the soul by the Creator. Its a parallel imagery that confuses allot of people.
Long before the villian of Harry Potter divided up his soul, the Torah has taught concerning the soul. The six days of Creation teach the 6 days that each face of the soul recieved its dedication. The soul represents life. As the first man, Adam, named the living animals - the Torah employs Divine Names that a person can use to Name the different faces of one's soul. A soul in hebrew means world or even Universe. A proper blessing takes this into account: Blessed are Your Lord our G-d King of the Universe...
But faith entails seeing beyond the ritual forms and grasping the internal substance.
The 6 faces of the soul: Nefesh/Yah; Ruach/Ha'El; Neshama/El; Chyyah/Elohim; Yechidda/El Shaddai; Big Bang/Eish HaElohim. When people error and search for G-d in the physical world the Torah calls this "avodah zarah/strange works". Translators of the Bible erred and called this general term by a specific term - idolatry. Logically a specific can help define the parameters of a general statement. However a specific can not replace the general statement. By calling strange works - idolatry, the translators of the Bible with their illogic confused all the goyim or non folks of the Covenant.
The Greeks had a profound influence upon shaping Roman culture. Eventually Rome embraced the religion of Christianity. The fall of Rome by the "barbarian" invasions caused Greek philosophy to be lost until the Arab empire shattered the Church's hold of this information. The Greeks like other nations in the ancient world sought to find the gods in the heavens. They employed geometry in their efforts to chart the orbit of the planets which they considered gods. This error of seeking gods in the physical Universe, this the Torah calls - avodah zarah.
I'd like to consider the 5th axiom of Euclidian geometry. For non mathmaticians plane geometry is limited to 2 or at most 3 dimensions. The controversial 5th axiom has no proof, over the centuries many mathmatician have attempted to develop a proof, some of the attempts are really quite clever. But there's a simple reason that this axiom has no proof - its a false statement.
The axiom states: "Given a line and a point not on the line, only one line can be drawn through the point parallel to the line." This axiom fails to consider, due to the Greek avodah zarah, the possibility of a parallel spiritual universe. Seeking the Elohim not in the physical, yet using the physical as a form to search for the internal substance, its possible to say that a parallel spiritual universe can occupy the exact same space as a physical universe. The mind percieves reality of 3 - dimensional depth, as explained by this assumption.
Furthermore, the human soul percieves not only the distinct definition of 'self' distinct from others but can gaze in wonder at the planets and stars of our Universe and search for other life forms; for this larger universe contains the life of this same soul "congruent" and parallel unto the perception of an individual's self identity.
Consider a mathmatical equation for prayer: Where holiness = K; M = commandments; Da = emotional attributes; f = a function of
Functional relationship qualify as the heart and soul of science. The scientic method examines or limits its obsevation to physical tests, this flies in the face with avodah zarah! Function measure how Y relates with X. Writing a function theory requires determining the value of a functional relationship based upon defined limitation. If a person can invalidate on of the defining or limiting assumptions, then the theory falls. A functional theory looks like this: Y = f(X); therefore i learn prayer as: K = f(M,Da).
The limiting assumptions:
1) Holiness as a force, shares "congruency" with gravity and radiation. A parallelepiped is a 3 dimensional figure, the tefillen - those funny black boxes that Jews pray with qualifies as a parallelepiped! The simplest form of parallelogram law states that the sum of the square of the lengths of the 4 sides of a parallelogram equals the sum of the squares of the lengths of the 2 diagonals. The law of parallelograms I intend to use as a club to smash the 1st law of Newtonian physics: Matter can not be created or destroyed. Torah teaches that the creation process occurs continuously. Newtons' law contradicts the Torah.
2) The soul/face of G-d has 6 faces.
3) The avodah/labor of prayer, it functions in the place of sacrificial worship. (Sacrificial worship did not envolve making a Bar BQ to heaven, that's seeking god in the physical - avodah zarah! A sacrifice a person could make an oath to cut a covenant, meaning to cut a soul, meaning creating a soul from nothing by means of using Divine Names! The atonement came by means of the blood and not by the blood - a fundamental distinction. The blood contains the nefesh/soul. A sacrifice involved dedicating a nefesh by means of a Torah Oath!) Prayer functions in the place of sacrifices because a person who has kavvannah can accomplish the same avodah and thereby cut a covenant upon the soul. There exists 6 high holy days in Torah tradition which permits a person at each occation to dedicate a particular "face of G-d".
4) The 6 days of the week a person can dedicate a particular soul. Rotating the six faces of the soul resembles the rotation of planets within the universe. Physically this rotation of mass and distance determines gravity. Spiritually the rotation of souls determines holiness. Holiness has power to determine life in this Universe just as does gravity and radiation!
5) A person can offer a soul, by means of an oath, for the purpose of authorizing the rulership/kingship of the soul over commandments and emotional attributes.
6) Emotional attributes essentially functions through pure and impure emotional measurements/middot.
7) The Jewish standing prayer incorporates 6 fixed blessing, that do not change over the course of the entire week including shabbot. The 13 middle blessing found in the weekly prayer a person can not only dedicate a specific soul on each day of the week, but can affix one of the 13 middot revealed at Mt. Sinai to each middle blessing.
 The intention of prayer centers upon congruency between the physical universe and the spiritual universe.
9) A Torah oath has the power to create covenant souls from nothing.
10) By creating a parallel universe the power of holiness has congruence with the power of gravity and radiation to determine life in this world.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: time |
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| Time viewed from physical limitations assumes a linear form - past, present, future. However, cutting an oath/covenent(brit in hebrew)soul, this soul lives beyond our current physical existence, assuming previous generation that they too cut an oath/brit soul/world ... then that soul planet which they created, its the same planet that each person in every generation can create! Viewed from this perspective time takes on a entirely new reality, because life transforms from the limitations of our physical selves and includes the entire creation. The planets and universe viewed strictly from a physical perspective - they're dead, but viewed from a Torah perspective the Universe lives because our oath/brit breaths life into the worlds. Consequently the psamists decried trusting in the power of horses swords and men. Gravity and lights fundamentally determines life as we know it. But the spiritual universe occupies the same exact space as the physical universe, the line and the dot outside the line, its posible to draw multiple lines through the dot and all these lines can run parallel to the line! Creating a parallel spiritual universe causes as a consequence that holiness can function upon life on par with gravity and light. |
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Moshe, I would like to ask you a couple of questions to clarify your points if I may.
1) Is there any evidence requiring 'holiness' and 'spirit' to reside in a parallel universe? Why can't they reside in our physical universe as forms of energy? If they did, and influenced the world in any way, then they could, in principle, be open to measurement. We could then make progress with understanding. Recent experiments by Bill Tiller show that mind through meditation can indeed change the properties of matter. If spirit is of the same nature as mind then a similar coupling in the physical universe might be expected.
2) You state, without evidence, that Newton's law contradicts the Torra. A modern form of this law, also valid in quantum theory, is conservation of energy. Matter is now considered as one form of energy and can be created and destroyed by conversion between different forms of energy. Does the creation of soul not require the input of energy? I rather doubt that the creator would break the laws of physics that govern the behaviour of all forms of energy known to science. These laws were presumably used, and indeed created in the Big Bang, so why should consciousness and spirit be treated differently?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: Cutting a brit and energy |
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Cutting a brit requires an energy called kavvannah, the closest translation of this abstract term that i currently understand, focused concentration. Hence as you correctly observed meditation can assume the quality of kavvannah. Channelling the mind, this requires energy. Torah unlike the popular belief systems, such as Islam, christianity, buddism etc, does not waste time and energy upon developing dogmatic beliefs in god(s). As an ant can not grasp the thoughts of the simplest human, so too and even more so a man can not plummet the Creator. Consequently the revelation of Torah/תורה centers upon the teaching of how man exists in the image of G-d. Problem: its an open contradiction within the Torah itself. Genesis/בראשית teaches that man lives in the image of G-d. What can this language mean? The revelation of Torah at Sinai explicitly obligates through pointed teaching that nothing not on earth, nor seas, nor in the heavens has any comparison unto the Elohim. The texts contradict one another. The revelation of Torah at Sinai includes not only the Written Torah but the Oral Torah. The latter non brit peoples have never learned, because the brit people do not teach it. True the Talmud has gone through translations. But if a person does not know what Oral Torah is, then looking at a translation of the Talmud compares to trying to find a barley shaft inside a huge hay stack made from wheat.
As an observant Jew, i do not hold that Jews hold a monopoly upon the Torah. Oral Torah exists as logic. Hence the Jews and the Greeks came into a strong cultural conflict because our logic and their logic are different. Today their exist many schools of logic besides the classic formal logic of the Greeks. Modal logic serves as but one example. But in ancient times the Greek school of logic invaded the middle east and the Roman Empire like a conquoring army. Channukka celebrates the defeat of Greek logic. But the celebration was short lived because the independent Jewish state, the first time Jews independently governed our lands since the fall of the 1st Common wealth by the Babylonians, quickly fell into civil war that ultimately culminated in Pompii entering into Jerusalem and resolving the dispute of the brothers Hashmoniaim by making Israel an conquored provence of Rome. Mishneh, whose letters rearragned also spells Neshama(משנה...נשמה) its style - a common law approach of case/ruling. The Gemarah employes a different style - of difficulty/answer. This distinction of style between the authoritive codification of Oral Torah and the authoritive commentary upon the Mishneh requires deep consideration. The two resemble something like two fractions not sharing a common denominator. The solution then becomes simple: make the gemarah fraction share a congruent denominator as the mishneh and things can easily add up. The gemarah employs halachic and aggadic conversations. These two also require a common denominator so as to understand (defined by the gemarah as : learning a thing from the midst of another thing) their relationship not only among themselves but primarily unto the Mishneh. Mathmatically stated leaning Talmud requires understanding well functional relationships
Y = f(X). Functional relations play a central role in mathmatics.
Torah never served as a belief system. Consequently the sons and daughters of the brit never called themselves "believers". Cutting an oath/brit upon the soul ... a person does not "believe" HE OR SHE has done such a thing. The Church attempted to mirror themselves upon the Torah, but that's really rather comical. Their priest make solemn vows of chastity and little boys beware. After the Parsha of Genesis/בראשית (the hebrew says so much more than the translation אש ברית means the fire of the brit.) Cutting a brit requires an oath. Fire of Heaven this term came after the floods destroyed all mankind. This disaster occured because the generations of Adam profaned their oath! The logical inference from this understanding of Genesis to Noach: if an oath can destroy the world, an oath possesses the power/energy to create a soul. A nefesh is called a world! This touches upon the heart of Torah spirituality. The brit of Noach qualifies as the foundation of Torah faith. Faith has nothing to do with history in a primary sense of its meaning. What happened in the past ... its the past. Faith involves the hear and present. Cutting a brit requires making a Torah oath. The Brit Noach called Nefesh: a person takes a Safer Torah and swears not to do acts of theft oppression or nakedness among his/her allied peoples; cutting a brit entails forging a permanent alliance between at least 2 parties. Y = f(X). Now examine the history of the peoples of the Book. Christianity and Islam - that's a joke. And we Jews just went through a 2000 year exile that culminated in the Shoah. Cutting an oath upon the soul this does not require "belief" but it most definitely requires "fear of heaven". Avot a pithy collection of moral teachings says: All comes from heaven except fear of heaven. Fear of Heaven, as i understand it from my own failings requires humility.
I woke up this morning in a state of tumah, i was unfit to Pray today. Tohor and Tumah constitute as such profound concepts, their abstract nature requires the deepest of Talmudic learning to understand; that's what my Rav who taught me Talmud told me. Translating them as pure and impure leave so much to be desired, its such a poor translation. The king james calls it clean and unclean - a pathetic translation! Tohor and Tumah deals with emotional energies which shares a "functional relationship". Y = f(X).
On a side note: Yidden don't eat meat and milk together because it was an ancient custom of avodah zarah to eat meat and milk together. Following the circumcision the Angels visited Avraham and he served them meat and milk to discern if they practiced avodah zarah or no; by contrast when the Angel's visited Lot, Lot did not concern himself if these strangers practiced avodah zarah before he brought them into his house. The story then went on to teach that Lot offered to make his two virgin daughters into prostitutes, and these same daughters bore children Lot being the father! That's an incredibly powerful story, it amazes me that people are so ignorant of the Torah ... that is until i see tumah within my being ... we're all ignorant. Some know a little more than others, but we are all just as ignorant as a stick. In my entire life i have never gone a weeks where some emotional instability did not make me tumah to pray. Working upon our middot/emotional attributes this avodah, central to the Torah, is called derech eretz. The numerical value of the Sham HaShem is 26. At Sinia HaShem reveal 13 tohor middot unto Moshe my teacher. Rabbi HaNassi the compiler of the Mishneh taught that the Torah spells heart/לבב with 2 be'ts because the heart contains the Yazir HaTov and the Yazir HaRa. The building block of functional relationships required to build a Yazir: middot! Consequently the Heart, the same place where one prays, holds the middot of both the Yazirs, meaning 26 middot! 13 against 13 the scales can go either way! Shabbot a person ceases to do the malachot/labors required to build the Mishkan/Tabernacle of the Congregation. Its a substance and form argument ... Holiness is not dependent upon the forms of the Mishkan but rather upon the substance of the Mishkan. The substance of the Mishkan - that the 13 middot revelation shall fill the Mishkan. Hence Shabbot observant Jews ceace from doing the 39 principal labours required to make the "form" of the Mishkan so they can dedicated their derech eretz middot walk before the Elohim. By inviting the middot of the Elohim to fill our souls 13 + 13 + 13 = 39! Hence on Shabbat Jews cease doing the malachot of the forms of holiness to as to recieve and worship the substance of holiness. There's really no comparison to the muslim and christian models of a day of rest to keep shabbat.
The Pauline notion of calling the Torah "law", its so pathetic it approaches the medieval translation of tohor and tumah as clean and unclean or pure and impure - yuk. A brit requires an oath. No oath no brit, this rule holds for every generation for ever! Jews we are bnai brit, we're not a race; because we marry among our allied peoples - outsiders assume that we're a race. But its simply not accurate, our brit includes blessings and curses Hitler and the european apathy that watched as 1/3 of my people smoked into ashes occured because my people failed to honor or oath/brit obligations. Hitler and anti-semitism function only as the form of a problem; the substance of evil occurs because i and my people fail to honor our oath/brit obligations. The commandments take on the form of "law" but the commandments function together and as a consequence unto the oath/britot by which my peoples cut our souls. Evil functions like an anti-holiness. The Ruach oath/brit swore by Avraham: You give to me and my descendents this land and I swear upon my soul to rule it with justice. Law only functions as a form which expresses the substance of this oath! When Paul called Torah "Law" the guy either mis intentionally or intentionally deluded lot and lots of peoples! Intentionally, perhaps Paul was a spy sent to undermine this new movement and at the same time destabalize Rome before the coming revolt broke out. Such speculations are not my expertise, still the writings of Paul preceed the linear writings of the Gospels by give or take 100 or more years! Who decieved who when the Gospels preceed the Writings of Paul? Syria, king David conquored, for Paul to publically teach that circumcision served as a trifle, to whom did this man offend?! For him to public encourage the Romans to swear alliegence unto "the king of the Jews" how did this effect the Roman's perception of Ceasar? The Talmud teaches that death by stoning entailed taking a person to a 3 storey high platform and pushing him off unto a large stone. If the person still lived a heavy stone was placed upon him that killed him. Talmud teaches that the last step was never required. Yet strangely Paul suffered stoning and walked away from it with his own energy?! What a cool way to infiltrate an enemy operation! Either way you look at it, the notion of labeling Torah as "law" qualifies as a gross slander. |
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I'm afraid that I haven't read the Torah scripts so most of this is over my head. I was however interested in the repeated use of the functional form y=F(x) by which you suggest that mathematics can provide insights into the spiritual world.
Unfortunately this functional relationship means nothing without specifying the function F.
In modern physics F could be a highly nonlinear functional and both y and x could be vectors in some infinite dimensional Banach or Hilbert space. I imagine that a realistic description of the spiritual dimension could be even more complicated.
Please give a useful example for the function F!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: Y = f(X) |
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Y and X function as independent variables, "f" means a function of or dependent upon. For example when Y increases does X increase or decrease? Economics employs this simply formula extensively. But the subject that I have sought to discuss concerns "beliefs and cultures". I have attempted to argue that belief systems work by decieving believers to believe! Cutting a covenant entails forging an alliance with other people. This means that forging a common society, the people of that society do business with each other on a preferred basis, the marry their children among that given society etc.
America, big brother now incarcerates !%of the population into jails. The theft and violence has produced a police state mentality. Is this the inheritance that American wish to cause their children to inherit? Spirituality, true spirituality, addresses the search of the unknown for a better life. Marketing employs this to convert people into consumer markets. But spirituality has nothing to do with buying and selling other than presenting alturnative possibilities by which people can choose to shape their "who am I" identities. Religions talk about the human soul, yet fail to define this critical abstract term. I say, based upon my Talmudic learning that a person can create a soul(s) from nothing, and that this soul, being infinitely bigger than the individual, that this soul functions like the orbiting of a planet: gravity(g) is a function(f) of mass(m) and distance(d). g =f(m,d). The law of a parallelogram being ab(squared) + bc(squared) + cd(squared) + ad(squared) = ac(squared) + bd(squared). Newtons first law of physics: Matter can not be created or destroyed, does not apply to the parallel spiritual universe where souls can be both created and destroyed. Life as we know it depends upon gravity and radiation in the physical universe. But life as I know it in the spiritual universe depends upon holiness, and kingship. Since the diagonals in the physical universe fail to achieve congruency with the diagonals of the spiritual universe, therefore either the law of parallelograms is wrong or I've got a serious problem with Newton's 1st law of physics. Since Newton theory of physics opposes the Torah, I as a Torah observant Jew, reject this Newtonian theory as being valid, based upon certain qualifying limitation/assumptions. |
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