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ShawnD
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok so you want us to be more

creative for you! not a problem I set up a mirror and stood the book mark up, but it still proves

you didnt write this poem as it still clearly shows

1980!



But yet you still claim you wrote this in 1995, we

have proof you have nothing!

Shawn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now we shouldn't get confused

here. I already know there are all the products on the market.. these things mean nothing..

These things don't mean I didn't write the poem at all, please don't show me things that are

for sale on the internet today. I would need to see things that are dated before the 1990's in

order for me to introspect deep into my own thoughts as to why I have this 'impression' in my

brain of writing this poem. I am not conceding to not writing this poem based on things for sale

on the internet or in any other store for that matter. I know that if I wrote this poem in 1994,

there's every chance that since this time products have popped up here and there with my work.

The only thing that I will consider as proof-worthy would be things like the keyring, I would

need to see other things like that before I will be convinced that I am under a spell or curse of

the "Don't Quit' poem. In the meantime I do not have enough proof, sorry. But I do ask for

more proof and I am asking for real proof right now, right here.

Gerard
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Rose
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This St Jude Prayer " Don't

Quit" is found on the back of Italian Holy Cards from the original art house known as

CromoNB.

The cards feature gorgeous 19th century artwork on the front and popular

Catholic prayers/devotions like Don't Quit on the back.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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poemwriter wrote:
Now we shouldn't get confused here. I already know there are

all the products on the market.. these things mean nothing.. These things don't mean I didn't

write the poem at all, please don't show me things that are for sale on the internet today. I

would need to see things that are dated before the 1990's in order for me to introspect deep

into my own thoughts as to why I have this 'impression' in my brain of writing this poem. I am

not conceding to not writing this poem based on things for sale on the internet or in any other

store for that matter. I know that if I wrote this poem in 1994, there's every chance that since

this time products have popped up here and there with my work. The only thing that I will

consider as proof-worthy would be things like the keyring, I would need to see other things like

that before I will be convinced that I am under a spell or curse of the "Don't Quit' poem. In

the meantime I do not have enough proof, sorry. But I do ask for more proof and I am asking for

real proof right now, right here.

Gerard


I have already shown

you a product that was produced before 1995.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's 2 products at the link

below with the poem on them here's the link

below

http://www.choices-nyc.com/prod_cat.asp?catid=4&sortby=&sorttype=&prodtype=&page=2
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you would have to mail that to

me, I would certainly respect it and handle it with care, obviously, I would examine it and

return it safley to you, otherwise I will not accept this at a proof. I will give you my address

if you're willing to do your part to make a point.

Thanks that's all I really have to

say, and I am asking for more proof.. By all means anyone who has some please show it. I will

not ask everyone to mail me their proof.. but the keyring is a bit

tricky.

Sorry.
Gerard
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why are people sending me proof

that 'Don't Quit' is on products for sale? I already know that? This is not proof. Proof is

once again, things like the keyring. Please don't do this ok.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MORE PROOF this keychain is in

our posession, it clearly shows 1980 yet you just said you wrote it in 1994 ?

That is

more then enough proof!

Members have come forward to state they know this poem is over

60+ years old and others are getting their books and frames that this poem/prayer is in showing

publishing dates!

This is not a item for sale we have it here as I clearly showed you

using our mirror and a pencil case holding it up!

Look at the previous picture the backs

match? and then the mirror shot their one of the same it was published on this key chain in 1980

yet you stated here you wrote it in 1994!

Us mail it to you yeah write, then poof is gone

and you go one as before!

Man your dense!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The keychain is in our

possession. I’m not mailing it to you as it the evidence that I have that clearly proves you are

a phony. Laughing
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poemwriter
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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look, this isn't about a hoax.

this is about something different from that. If you don't understand that oh well what can I

say? I do appreciate the effort that you are making, believe it or not. But if you think I am a

type of person who would destroy your property well then Ok don't mail it.. I am a mission to

see real proof about any notion of idea that I am making a mistake here. I am capable of making

mistakes, and of admitting to making a mistake. But before I would ever take my website down, I

would need proof to prove otherwise that what I say is incorrect.

I am asking for others

who have 'Don't Quit' on items that are old , please come forward with them and of course

dates on the items are best. The keyring has me thinking, but again there are better hoaxes than

that in this world.

Gerard
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ShawnD
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not a hoax, Gerard and we

contacted a media press release today! There will be press release as they mentioned it was

definetly an intresting story on how one man could claim a St-Jude poem as his own!

Review

our Press Release area, this is not the first time we have come up with a story such as this

showing the incredible morals of one person!

Rose will be drafting it up, and we will

insure you recieve a copy of this media release! printed in a well known Magazine!

Then

you will beleive its not a hoax, there is no editing no nothing simple pictures that prove your

wrong!

Shawn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is something to think

about. Theoretically speaking! If a guy was walking around with some deep inner spiritual

experience of writing a poem, ok sure let's say a poem like "Don't Quit" and there that person

is walking around with this weight on his shoulders for 10 years. Do you not think that if this

person was mistaking for some unknown reason, that this person wouldn't want this weight taken

off his shoulders? I mean if I am correct which I think and feel I am.. well then I want the

world to know what I did! Hence, my website! If I am mistaken, and am proved to have been.. do

you realize the types of relief, the digging deep to find what happened and why did this

impression in my mind come to be? How could this be? These would be the questions I would

explore. But this can only happen when I am totally convinced. Otherwise, and try to see this

for what it is.... I am the person who wrote this poem.. put it this way.. let's say that you

did something a few years ago, had it in your memory and then suddenly someone told you that you

didn't do it... and now they are trying to prove to you that you didn't do it. This is what is

happening here.. so please know the depth of this.
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one other other thing to know

about me is this. I am a regular guy, I am not a freak, or psycho, I'm a grounded, rationale

person. I think I am highly educated with a Masters Degree in one of the Highest Ranking

Universities in the world. What I am trying to convey here is that I have never made anything up

in my life. I've never decided to claim that I painted some anonymous painting all of a sudden

or for that matter anything else ever! Never Ever Ever. So why then is 'Don't Quit' in my

memory, I am talking about of chosing words for the poems, chosing words that rhyme with the next

verse? These memories are far more than me just having a vague rememberance of writing this

poem. Tell you what I'll 'share' something with you all. After putting my website up, I had

a few "you didn't write the poem" responses. I am a guy who cares what people say. Well, I

went into bed with my wife one night like any other guy out here. I lie there in bed,

questioning myself, and I have tears in my eyes right now! Questioning myself, "did you really

write this poem Gerard"? I figured that the only way for me to answer to this was to go deep

into my memory and I did that! I questioned myself and what I got in return was this memory of

it, of putting it together, writing it, the Title 'Don't Quit' was a memory of writing the

poem for the psychiatric patients so they would see a 'title' that said "don't kill yourself"

this was my motive and I remember it as clear as I am looking at the screen on my laptop. I was

so certain after that night because the emotions of doing it, writing it had all surfaced up to

where I said Yes I did it. Yes absolutely! I am certain. And it was after this night that I

was prepared to fight for what I am saying. And I have been fighting. I am of course a

reasonable guy and I don't just turn my cheek to people. I am asking for proof, I am open to

anything and everything.. the way I see this is that I can't lose either way.

Gerard
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Rose
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First and foremost, you did not

write this poem. Your website is the hoax.
You may have played a few people as a fool but not

anymore Gerard, your little game is over. The Bottom Line: Whatever story you make up, factor is

the poem was written many many years before 1994. Gerard I believe that you may need some sort

of psychiatric help and a psychiatrist who deals in these type of disorders will be able to

better help you than any of us can. I do hope that you get help; it must be devastating to you to

find out that all along you believed you were the author of this poem, only to find out now that

it is a classic St Jude Prayer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suspended him; I have wasted

enough of my evening on him. I have better things to do like admire the bridge lol.
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